MSNBC Republican debate January 24, 2008
Mitt Romney supports the second amendment and gun rights, this is a question posed by Mike Huckabee.
Romney on Bill Clinton in the White House
MSNBC Republican debate January 24, 2008
Great response by Mitt Romney about the idea the Clintons back in the White House.
"Bill Clinton in the White House with nothing to do, I just can't imagine, and I don't think the American people can imagine it..."
Great response by Mitt Romney about the idea the Clintons back in the White House.
"Bill Clinton in the White House with nothing to do, I just can't imagine, and I don't think the American people can imagine it..."
Romney Addresses Mormon Faith in MSNBC debate January 24, 2008
MSNBC Republican debate January 24, 2008
I couldn't help but feel a twinge of truth in Romney's response. Who cares about his personal faith - LOOK AT HIS FAITH IN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE! Inspiring.
Americans are not going to impose a religious test, when the founders said that is as unAmerican as anything. Free American people are the source of America's greatness! AWESOME!
"I just don't believe people will chose their candidate based on which Church they go to."
"We're not going to vote for this guy for a secular position because of the Church he goes to, I just don't believe that."
"A head to head with Hillary Clinton... she takes her inspiration from the Europe of old, big government, big taxes. I take my inspiration from small government, low taxes."
I couldn't help but feel a twinge of truth in Romney's response. Who cares about his personal faith - LOOK AT HIS FAITH IN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE! Inspiring.
Americans are not going to impose a religious test, when the founders said that is as unAmerican as anything. Free American people are the source of America's greatness! AWESOME!
"I just don't believe people will chose their candidate based on which Church they go to."
"We're not going to vote for this guy for a secular position because of the Church he goes to, I just don't believe that."
"A head to head with Hillary Clinton... she takes her inspiration from the Europe of old, big government, big taxes. I take my inspiration from small government, low taxes."
Ron Paul edged out by Romney in MSNBC text debate
MSNBC Republican Debate January 24, 2008
I almost fell out of my chair! Ron Paul was edged out by Mitt Romney on the text message vote after the MSNBC poll. That is crazy.
MSNBC Text poll--who won the debate?
Romney 41%
Paul 40%
Huckabee 8%
McCain 7%
Rudy 4%
I almost fell out of my chair! Ron Paul was edged out by Mitt Romney on the text message vote after the MSNBC poll. That is crazy.
MSNBC Text poll--who won the debate?
Romney 41%
Paul 40%
Huckabee 8%
McCain 7%
Rudy 4%
Republican Debate January 24,2008 MSNBC
MSNBC Republican debate January 24, 2008
Just got home and the debate is thirty minutes in. Here are my comments and thoughts so far.
Romney "Get out or win?" Democrats say get out. "Not to General Hillary Clinton" (lots of applause, and I thought it was a pretty clever line)
Paul War is not worth it. Al Queda wasn't there. They are now. (Paul so now that Al Queda is there do you just run away and leave it to them?)
Huckabee Weapons of mass destruction just weren't found, like all the Easter eggs. (I think most Americans think there was not WMD in Iraq, oopsie Huckabee)
Romney War not well managed, under planned, understaffed. Now we are in the phase we are in now. Now we have to make sure Iraq does not become a safe haven for Al Queda. (I like that he realizes there were troubles, but that America can make changes to win.)
Second Segment: Questions from candidates to other candidates, going left to right
Romney Giuliani how do we level the playing field with China. What kind of economic.
Giuliani I told you I wasn't going to answer your question. More engaged in trade the better, get to know them better. Ability to sue in China (that will be a very tough one to every make happen). What can we sell to China - energy independence, technology.
McCain Huckabee proponent of Fair Tax, how do you answer the criticism wouldn't cause more pain to lower income Americans? How do you account the resonance.
Huckabee People would love to see the IRS abolished. (Look at this conversation I had with a Pro Huckabee supporter here.) Prebate, every American would get a check (dang that is going to require a ton of administration). Wants Pimps, drug dealers, etc to be brought into the tax (this is a tiny population. Huckabee goes on in rebuttal to discount 30% - although because of the method of determining the 23% tax it comes out as a true 30%)
Paul Sunlight on group running money policy in the US.
McCain Rely on secretary of treasure to run money policy. He would rely on his group of friends (basically those who he owes favors to).
Huckabee Second Amendment ban on so called assault weapons. Do you support Brady and assault weapon ban,
Romney I do support second Amendment. I would have signed the assault weapon ban. Both the pro and anti gun lobbies came together. People have the right to carry a weapon.
Giuliani People have difficulties getting property insurance. McCain does not support a national catastrophic fund. Do you have a position on the national catastrophic fund?
Romney The answer is Yes. We had the problem in Massachusetts. So we will do as you just indicated. I am not in favor that Iowa should subsidise the people in Mass or Florida. How do we build a policy in each state. I brought together industry experts to solve health insurance.
McCain This is a terrible problem. Spread insurance across state lines (wow, that is radical). Call regulators, congress together (opps left out industry experts).
Russert Global Warming in Florida, but you are against green house gases.
Giuliani Invest in new technology. Nuclear powerplants, increase hybrid vehicles, more clean coal, incentives for new industries and biofuels. Wind, solar, etc. National project like getting man on the moon. This is the best way to fight green house gases. Positive way.
McCain Joe Lieberman and I proposed credit market on green house gases. Nuclear power, out of foreign oil, climate change is real (wow, that is almost anti-republican). Suppose we are wrong and climate change is not real, at least we will hand our kids a cleaner world (I agree with that).
Third Segment:
Giuliani Romney asked me a nice question, we've lulled them into a false sense of security. Everyone has a chance. I believe I'll get the nomination.
McCain Proud of my record on judges. Most republicans thinking about threat of radical Islam (not so my friend). Stewardship of our planet. Keep Israel independent. Very, very conservative record, but there are times when Rumsfelds strategy is wrong, Jack Abrahmoff (McCain's third largest lobbiest is the group that Jack worked for).
Romney The idea of Bill Clinton in the White House with nothing to do. (That is funny) I'll run against Hillary. 110 billion more every single year for her health care plan. Get out of Iraq, she is what is wrong with Washington. Look sending the same people back over and over will not change the results.
Romney How much money of your own wealth. There is nobody that can call me and cash in a favor. I am consiHow America works, I am giving my all. Loved his answer on his religion. I don't believe for a minute that Americans will impose a religious test. I believe individual freedom is what makes America great. (His answer here was more inspiring than his speech on religion! I was duly impressed with his response. Wow, what optimism about Americans, even though we all know we have our scum bags. Very Presidential and spoken with such great conviction. WOW!)
Huckabee Specifically do to change social security. Huckabee to Romney, you have five exceptional sons. If the country will elect me, your sons will get to keep your money. (The guy is
Everybody keeps talking about unlikely the Fair Tax is, we need to be talking about what we can do (Let me note NO COUNTRY IN THE WORLD HAS EVER RUN GOVERNMENT USING A FAIR TAX).
Romney Will you do for social security what Ronald Reagan do? I will not raise taxes. The four ways to solve the method 1. Raise taxes (worse way); we will need to sit down with Dems/Reps 2. Personal Accounts that do better than government bonds, 3. Innitial benefit calculation based on wage index, 4. Change the retirement age. Let's not scare anyone listening to me, it's not going to change people already on social security.
Giuliani Why is your campaign airing an ad in Spanish? America is built around english language. If you know other languages that is a good thing. Stop illegal immigration at the border. Tamper proof ID Card. Question Wet foot dry foot: why special policy for Cuba? Presumption that if fleeing Castro then fleeing politcal persectuiong.
Huckabee Chuck Norris said at 72 McCain too old. I didn't disagree with Norris because I was standing right next to him. I don't think that McCain lacks the rigor. He has the capacity to run.
McCain Now that Sylvester Stallon has endorsed me I'm sending him right over to take care of Norris.
Giuliani Question about NY times article. I never did anything the NYTimes suggested, if I did I would not be a convervative. I moved people from welfare to work. They wrote how mean I was. There is serious ideological differnces.
Romney Charge about you changes positions with the wind. Haven't paid your dues. I'm not going to Washington to make friends with politicians. Look at my record at Governor. Every issue I dealt with as Governor. Awarded by Citizens for life in MA on pro-life. Clear record on taxes. I am proud of where I stand and show my record to show I've been consistent.
McCain Question about temper. I don't see it as an impediment. I've dealt with friends and colleagues and wouldn't have their support if we didn't have a good. Endorses Giuliani (now why is he doing that?). All these people are good people and I intend to respect them.
Huckabee Question about quesy feeling. Solid core, faith grounds me, sense of purpose. Never use auspices of government to push my faith. They will have to deal with it. Respect people who have faith or don't.
Paul Won't stick to your party, would you launch a third party? I think they haven't stuck to our party. I've been elected 10 times as a Republican. It has a problem because we don't act like Republicans. Used to be against the department of education. We stopped wars, and here we are starting them. Why should the strict constitutionaists be removed from the party?
The end.
Just got home and the debate is thirty minutes in. Here are my comments and thoughts so far.
Romney "Get out or win?" Democrats say get out. "Not to General Hillary Clinton" (lots of applause, and I thought it was a pretty clever line)
Paul War is not worth it. Al Queda wasn't there. They are now. (Paul so now that Al Queda is there do you just run away and leave it to them?)
Huckabee Weapons of mass destruction just weren't found, like all the Easter eggs. (I think most Americans think there was not WMD in Iraq, oopsie Huckabee)
Romney War not well managed, under planned, understaffed. Now we are in the phase we are in now. Now we have to make sure Iraq does not become a safe haven for Al Queda. (I like that he realizes there were troubles, but that America can make changes to win.)
Second Segment: Questions from candidates to other candidates, going left to right
Romney Giuliani how do we level the playing field with China. What kind of economic.
Giuliani I told you I wasn't going to answer your question. More engaged in trade the better, get to know them better. Ability to sue in China (that will be a very tough one to every make happen). What can we sell to China - energy independence, technology.
McCain Huckabee proponent of Fair Tax, how do you answer the criticism wouldn't cause more pain to lower income Americans? How do you account the resonance.
Huckabee People would love to see the IRS abolished. (Look at this conversation I had with a Pro Huckabee supporter here.) Prebate, every American would get a check (dang that is going to require a ton of administration). Wants Pimps, drug dealers, etc to be brought into the tax (this is a tiny population. Huckabee goes on in rebuttal to discount 30% - although because of the method of determining the 23% tax it comes out as a true 30%)
Paul Sunlight on group running money policy in the US.
McCain Rely on secretary of treasure to run money policy. He would rely on his group of friends (basically those who he owes favors to).
Huckabee Second Amendment ban on so called assault weapons. Do you support Brady and assault weapon ban,
Romney I do support second Amendment. I would have signed the assault weapon ban. Both the pro and anti gun lobbies came together. People have the right to carry a weapon.
Giuliani People have difficulties getting property insurance. McCain does not support a national catastrophic fund. Do you have a position on the national catastrophic fund?
Romney The answer is Yes. We had the problem in Massachusetts. So we will do as you just indicated. I am not in favor that Iowa should subsidise the people in Mass or Florida. How do we build a policy in each state. I brought together industry experts to solve health insurance.
McCain This is a terrible problem. Spread insurance across state lines (wow, that is radical). Call regulators, congress together (opps left out industry experts).
Russert Global Warming in Florida, but you are against green house gases.
Giuliani Invest in new technology. Nuclear powerplants, increase hybrid vehicles, more clean coal, incentives for new industries and biofuels. Wind, solar, etc. National project like getting man on the moon. This is the best way to fight green house gases. Positive way.
McCain Joe Lieberman and I proposed credit market on green house gases. Nuclear power, out of foreign oil, climate change is real (wow, that is almost anti-republican). Suppose we are wrong and climate change is not real, at least we will hand our kids a cleaner world (I agree with that).
Third Segment:
Giuliani Romney asked me a nice question, we've lulled them into a false sense of security. Everyone has a chance. I believe I'll get the nomination.
McCain Proud of my record on judges. Most republicans thinking about threat of radical Islam (not so my friend). Stewardship of our planet. Keep Israel independent. Very, very conservative record, but there are times when Rumsfelds strategy is wrong, Jack Abrahmoff (McCain's third largest lobbiest is the group that Jack worked for).
Romney The idea of Bill Clinton in the White House with nothing to do. (That is funny) I'll run against Hillary. 110 billion more every single year for her health care plan. Get out of Iraq, she is what is wrong with Washington. Look sending the same people back over and over will not change the results.
Romney How much money of your own wealth. There is nobody that can call me and cash in a favor. I am consiHow America works, I am giving my all. Loved his answer on his religion. I don't believe for a minute that Americans will impose a religious test. I believe individual freedom is what makes America great. (His answer here was more inspiring than his speech on religion! I was duly impressed with his response. Wow, what optimism about Americans, even though we all know we have our scum bags. Very Presidential and spoken with such great conviction. WOW!)
Huckabee Specifically do to change social security. Huckabee to Romney, you have five exceptional sons. If the country will elect me, your sons will get to keep your money. (The guy is
Everybody keeps talking about unlikely the Fair Tax is, we need to be talking about what we can do (Let me note NO COUNTRY IN THE WORLD HAS EVER RUN GOVERNMENT USING A FAIR TAX).
Romney Will you do for social security what Ronald Reagan do? I will not raise taxes. The four ways to solve the method 1. Raise taxes (worse way); we will need to sit down with Dems/Reps 2. Personal Accounts that do better than government bonds, 3. Innitial benefit calculation based on wage index, 4. Change the retirement age. Let's not scare anyone listening to me, it's not going to change people already on social security.
Giuliani Why is your campaign airing an ad in Spanish? America is built around english language. If you know other languages that is a good thing. Stop illegal immigration at the border. Tamper proof ID Card. Question Wet foot dry foot: why special policy for Cuba? Presumption that if fleeing Castro then fleeing politcal persectuiong.
Huckabee Chuck Norris said at 72 McCain too old. I didn't disagree with Norris because I was standing right next to him. I don't think that McCain lacks the rigor. He has the capacity to run.
McCain Now that Sylvester Stallon has endorsed me I'm sending him right over to take care of Norris.
Giuliani Question about NY times article. I never did anything the NYTimes suggested, if I did I would not be a convervative. I moved people from welfare to work. They wrote how mean I was. There is serious ideological differnces.
Romney Charge about you changes positions with the wind. Haven't paid your dues. I'm not going to Washington to make friends with politicians. Look at my record at Governor. Every issue I dealt with as Governor. Awarded by Citizens for life in MA on pro-life. Clear record on taxes. I am proud of where I stand and show my record to show I've been consistent.
McCain Question about temper. I don't see it as an impediment. I've dealt with friends and colleagues and wouldn't have their support if we didn't have a good. Endorses Giuliani (now why is he doing that?). All these people are good people and I intend to respect them.
Huckabee Question about quesy feeling. Solid core, faith grounds me, sense of purpose. Never use auspices of government to push my faith. They will have to deal with it. Respect people who have faith or don't.
Paul Won't stick to your party, would you launch a third party? I think they haven't stuck to our party. I've been elected 10 times as a Republican. It has a problem because we don't act like Republicans. Used to be against the department of education. We stopped wars, and here we are starting them. Why should the strict constitutionaists be removed from the party?
The end.
McCain gets Endorsement from the New York Times
The New York Times editorial board just endorsed John McCain for the Republican candidate. Now one would usually suppose this to be a great honor. However, in this cause it is a slap in the face to McCain and to anyone who considers McCain a conservative. Why do I say this?The New York Times editorial board uses words like "enthusiastically", "strongly", and "exhilarating" to describe the Democrats. Because the New York Times is "hugely impressed" by Hillary Clinton, they have endorsed her as the Democratic nominee. The New York Times is a liberal publication, you can tell just by reading the Democratic and Republican endorsements.
Looking over the Republican candidates the New York Times states in the first sentence, "We have strong disagreements with all the Republicans running for president." Yet the choice is "easy", John McCain because of his liberal appeal.
No wonder McCain hasn't been winning with the Republicans in any state thus far, he's closer to the Democrats than his own party.
I liked this take on the subject, click here.
Rudy Down and Out according to Wall Street Journal Political Market
Wow, Rudy Giuliani is counted down and out by the Wall Street Journal. By skipping the early primary states Giuliani missed out on a ton of publicity. From a high of 45% chance of winning the GOP nomination, Giuliani has plunged to just 16% today. This makes him the biggest loser among the GOP candidates.
The overwhelming consensus from the early states is that Giuliani is not viable. He ended up lower in all of the races than anyone would have suspected. Looks like his wait till Florida strategy back fired on him. With Romney and McCain vying for first in both Florida and California, Giuliani may have missed his chance.
The overwhelming consensus from the early states is that Giuliani is not viable. He ended up lower in all of the races than anyone would have suspected. Looks like his wait till Florida strategy back fired on him. With Romney and McCain vying for first in both Florida and California, Giuliani may have missed his chance.
What do Clinton and McCain have in common?
They are the two candidates who have accepted the most money from lobbyists. The Wall Street Journal reported, "Mr. McCain and Mrs. Clinton led all others with donations from lobbyists. Mrs. Clinton collected $568,000 from lobbyists, while Mr. McCain has $340,000."
Kind of ironic that McCain's third largest contributor is Greenberg Traurig LLP, the company McCain took the lead in investigating for which Jack Abramoff the convicted lobbyist worked.
McCain owes too many favors to people in Washington!
Kind of ironic that McCain's third largest contributor is Greenberg Traurig LLP, the company McCain took the lead in investigating for which Jack Abramoff the convicted lobbyist worked.
McCain owes too many favors to people in Washington!
Fred Thompson Supporters Welcome in Romney Camp
Now I don't know about the rest of you, but I frequently visit the main website for each candidate. You know, check in on how things are going. McCain's website looks like an obituary (all the black and grey is kind of mortician-like). Thompson's website is all a stir with the news that Fred is leaving the race for President. Huckabee's website is having technical difficulties (quite a few dead links on the blog roll, not to mention quite a few people who no longer support him but can't get their site off his blog roll). Romney's site has a hilarious video of one of Romney's sons making a prank call from Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Anyway, my point is that most of the candidates have by now posted a complimentary statement to the effect, "Thanks for being in the race Fred". I couldn't help but notice how Huckabee still seems a little jaded and blames Thompson for keeping Huckabee from a win in South Carolina. I had a hard time reading Huckabee's statement with any sincerity. Honestly, if the guy would have listened to Fred's speech post South Carolina, Huckabee could have shut his mouth for a few days and instead of whining about Thompson's South Carolina run, let him retire without Huckabee's imperious blame.
I found however that Mitt Romney's comments were the best. He said, “Throughout this campaign, Fred Thompson brought a laudable focus to the challenges confronting our country and the solutions necessary to meet them. He stood for strong conservative ideas and believed strongly in the need to keep our conservative coalition together. Ann and I would like to extend our best wishes to Fred, Jeri and their family and congratulate them on their efforts during this campaign.”
I have to agree here with Romney. Fred Thompson told the people how it was. He stood up for his convictions and when he was ready he could put on a good show. I think because of Thompson's ideals that Fred supporters would be welcomed into the Romney group. As an economic conservative, I support Romney and had Thompson as my second choice. I've never considered McCain (I know he talks the political talk about cutting earmarks, but the guy has been there so long he owes favors to Clinton, Feingold, and Kennedy), I had at one point considered Huckabee (but I can't stand his tax ideas, and his I'm a better Christian than other candidates position).
Economic conservatives worried about the stock market, jobs, the economy, and even foreign affairs will recognize that Romney, with 25 years experience in the business world - knows how to effectively optimize departments, use economics to benefit our allies and hinder our enemies, to create teams that have specific deadlines, to use Ghant charts and project management skills to not only talk about things, BUT GET THEM DONE! With an MBA, Mitt Romney is a highly trained manager and knows how to get the biggest bang for the buck. He knows data analysis, regression analysis, and I believe he will use those skills to cut the fat out of Washington, giving us smaller government, lower taxes, and a healthier economy.
I invite all Fred Thompson supporters to seriously consider Mitt Romney for President. You're all welcome in my camp.
Anyway, my point is that most of the candidates have by now posted a complimentary statement to the effect, "Thanks for being in the race Fred". I couldn't help but notice how Huckabee still seems a little jaded and blames Thompson for keeping Huckabee from a win in South Carolina. I had a hard time reading Huckabee's statement with any sincerity. Honestly, if the guy would have listened to Fred's speech post South Carolina, Huckabee could have shut his mouth for a few days and instead of whining about Thompson's South Carolina run, let him retire without Huckabee's imperious blame.
I found however that Mitt Romney's comments were the best. He said, “Throughout this campaign, Fred Thompson brought a laudable focus to the challenges confronting our country and the solutions necessary to meet them. He stood for strong conservative ideas and believed strongly in the need to keep our conservative coalition together. Ann and I would like to extend our best wishes to Fred, Jeri and their family and congratulate them on their efforts during this campaign.”
I have to agree here with Romney. Fred Thompson told the people how it was. He stood up for his convictions and when he was ready he could put on a good show. I think because of Thompson's ideals that Fred supporters would be welcomed into the Romney group. As an economic conservative, I support Romney and had Thompson as my second choice. I've never considered McCain (I know he talks the political talk about cutting earmarks, but the guy has been there so long he owes favors to Clinton, Feingold, and Kennedy), I had at one point considered Huckabee (but I can't stand his tax ideas, and his I'm a better Christian than other candidates position).
Economic conservatives worried about the stock market, jobs, the economy, and even foreign affairs will recognize that Romney, with 25 years experience in the business world - knows how to effectively optimize departments, use economics to benefit our allies and hinder our enemies, to create teams that have specific deadlines, to use Ghant charts and project management skills to not only talk about things, BUT GET THEM DONE! With an MBA, Mitt Romney is a highly trained manager and knows how to get the biggest bang for the buck. He knows data analysis, regression analysis, and I believe he will use those skills to cut the fat out of Washington, giving us smaller government, lower taxes, and a healthier economy.
I invite all Fred Thompson supporters to seriously consider Mitt Romney for President. You're all welcome in my camp.
Fred Thompson Drops his friends' bid for the White House
I admire Fred Thompson, in fact, during the debates on the 5th and 6th I kept saying, "Wow, so that is why Fred Thompson is so cool!" While some in the blogosphere are "Crying in the Rain", others are exulting like Mike "Thompson made us lose SC" Huckabee or was it vice versa?
Regardless of your mood, I suppose when a candidate retires we, the masses, get to reflect on our favorite moment. Mine was the exchange between Thompson and Huckabee about death (although Huckabee meant death taxes).
Huckabee "I'll get rid of the estate tax and death."
Thompson "You'll get rid of death?... That ain't gonna work so well."
And although Fred drops the race his friends tried to win for him, Fred retires from the Presidential race with even more fans than his Law & Order days. Hat tip to Fred Thompson for a pretty good run from a man who understands quite a bit about being a Republican.
Most voters that choose Fred Thompson over Huckabee will find a new candidate in Mitt Romney. Looks like Thompson followers may be transitioning to Mitt Romney already. Take a look here, here, and here.
Regardless of your mood, I suppose when a candidate retires we, the masses, get to reflect on our favorite moment. Mine was the exchange between Thompson and Huckabee about death (although Huckabee meant death taxes).
Huckabee "I'll get rid of the estate tax and death."
Thompson "You'll get rid of death?... That ain't gonna work so well."
And although Fred drops the race his friends tried to win for him, Fred retires from the Presidential race with even more fans than his Law & Order days. Hat tip to Fred Thompson for a pretty good run from a man who understands quite a bit about being a Republican.
Most voters that choose Fred Thompson over Huckabee will find a new candidate in Mitt Romney. Looks like Thompson followers may be transitioning to Mitt Romney already. Take a look here, here, and here.
Flip Flopping John McCain, Mike Huckabee, Mitt Romney
According to the Cambridge International Dictionary of Idioms, the idiom flip-flopping means a complete change especially from one decision or opinion to another.
It should be recognized by everyone that all of the candidates have flip-flopped on many things. McCain saying his Amnesty bill was not Amnesty, Huckabee said he would pay tuition for illegals, but now his illegal bill is so Chuck "McCain is too old to be President" Norris tough that the illegals will go home with their children so Huckabee won't have to pay their tuition. And of course, Mitt Romney changed his position from status quo on ProLife issues to a strong position for Pro-Life issues and once he made the decision, he has come down on the side of Pro-Life issues every time. If every candidate has changed their position on things, why is it that Mitt Romney seems to be singled out by the main stream media as a flip-flopper.
When I browse CNN, Fox News, CBS, ABC, Telemundo, Reuters, Christian Science Monitor, New York Times, LA Times, and others they seem to be pushing this idea that only Mitt Romney has changed his positions. Additionally, if you look at comments posted by Huckabee supporters, McCain supporters, etc, they label Mitt Romney in some cases a flip-flopper.
New research done by Vanderbilt University explains why Romney's flip-flopper label sticks. Political scientists say anti-Mormon bias finds cover in the term flip-flopper. The research project was set up to uncover the real issue behind individuals comments about Romney. The poll states, "We find that of those who accuse Romney of flip-flopping, many admit it is Romney's Mormonism and not his flip-flopping that is the real issue." This poll indicated this pattern of calling Romney a flip-flopper is especially strong for conservative Evangelicals.
Ladies and Gentlemen, I propose that Romney's convincing win in Nevada shows that Mitt Romney appeals to Family conservatives, Economic conservatives, and Defense conservatives. More over, Mitt Romney appeals to Educated Evangelicals living in the same areas as Mormons. The nation can take a collective sigh of relief - Mitt Romney is supported by evangelical Christians that know Mormons best. Those in Nevada.
Seriously consider your candidate - Mitt Romney, if he weren't Mormon, would have won this contest months ago. Romney is a great candidate and his religion has nothing to do with his skill set, his honors during his education, and his drive to make America better not only for himself but also for us and our children. As an economic conservative, I endorse Mitt Romney for President - I love the idea of a successful self-made business man going to Washington and shaking things up. Romney is a highly trained manager who sets deadlines, holds meetings to set realistic goals, and then inspires his team to exceed expectations. If you like the idea of optimizing government, running the government as a break-even business, and bringing together both democrats and republicans in businesslike negotiation meetings - THEN MITT ROMNEY IS YOUR CANDIDATE. Mitt Romney is the choice of Republicans in Nevada and Michigan.
Mitt '08
It should be recognized by everyone that all of the candidates have flip-flopped on many things. McCain saying his Amnesty bill was not Amnesty, Huckabee said he would pay tuition for illegals, but now his illegal bill is so Chuck "McCain is too old to be President" Norris tough that the illegals will go home with their children so Huckabee won't have to pay their tuition. And of course, Mitt Romney changed his position from status quo on ProLife issues to a strong position for Pro-Life issues and once he made the decision, he has come down on the side of Pro-Life issues every time. If every candidate has changed their position on things, why is it that Mitt Romney seems to be singled out by the main stream media as a flip-flopper.
When I browse CNN, Fox News, CBS, ABC, Telemundo, Reuters, Christian Science Monitor, New York Times, LA Times, and others they seem to be pushing this idea that only Mitt Romney has changed his positions. Additionally, if you look at comments posted by Huckabee supporters, McCain supporters, etc, they label Mitt Romney in some cases a flip-flopper.
New research done by Vanderbilt University explains why Romney's flip-flopper label sticks. Political scientists say anti-Mormon bias finds cover in the term flip-flopper. The research project was set up to uncover the real issue behind individuals comments about Romney. The poll states, "We find that of those who accuse Romney of flip-flopping, many admit it is Romney's Mormonism and not his flip-flopping that is the real issue." This poll indicated this pattern of calling Romney a flip-flopper is especially strong for conservative Evangelicals.
Ladies and Gentlemen, I propose that Romney's convincing win in Nevada shows that Mitt Romney appeals to Family conservatives, Economic conservatives, and Defense conservatives. More over, Mitt Romney appeals to Educated Evangelicals living in the same areas as Mormons. The nation can take a collective sigh of relief - Mitt Romney is supported by evangelical Christians that know Mormons best. Those in Nevada.
Seriously consider your candidate - Mitt Romney, if he weren't Mormon, would have won this contest months ago. Romney is a great candidate and his religion has nothing to do with his skill set, his honors during his education, and his drive to make America better not only for himself but also for us and our children. As an economic conservative, I endorse Mitt Romney for President - I love the idea of a successful self-made business man going to Washington and shaking things up. Romney is a highly trained manager who sets deadlines, holds meetings to set realistic goals, and then inspires his team to exceed expectations. If you like the idea of optimizing government, running the government as a break-even business, and bringing together both democrats and republicans in businesslike negotiation meetings - THEN MITT ROMNEY IS YOUR CANDIDATE. Mitt Romney is the choice of Republicans in Nevada and Michigan.
Mitt '08
Mitt Romney Nevada Victory Speech - Battleground States
Highlights from Mitt Romney's Nevada Victory Speech:
Michigan and Nevada are battleground states during the general election. It shows Mitt has a good coalition by winning those states.
Romney emphasizes his campaign is the only one attempting to compete in all states.
Romney is making his appeal to ALL Americans.
View the entire video at the New York Times by clicking here.
All right Florida, it's your turn next!
Michigan and Nevada are battleground states during the general election. It shows Mitt has a good coalition by winning those states.
Romney emphasizes his campaign is the only one attempting to compete in all states.
Romney is making his appeal to ALL Americans.
View the entire video at the New York Times by clicking here.
All right Florida, it's your turn next!
Romney wins Nevada - Was it the Mormons?
The power of the Republican base is made up of three general types of conservatives: Family Conservatives, Economic Conservatives, and Defense Conservatives. I am using the numbers from Nevada with 98% of the precincts reporting to show that Romney won with the three types of conservatives - REGARDLESS of the Mormon vote. I suggest people that actually live around Mormons are not afraid to vote for a Mormon.
Nevada Caucus Numbers with 98% of precincts reporting:
An NPR host stated around 2:30 PM EST that 50% of the vote for Romney claimed to be Mormon. Fox news at 3 PM EST stated 25% of those voting were Mormons in Nevada backing up the NPR statement. We will expel the Mormons by deleting 50% of those that voted for Romney and then analyze the data.
We take the 22313 and divide by 2 in order to derive 50%. This is 22313/2 = 11156.5
Because we cannot have a half person, we will lower the number to 11156. The new numbers and percentages come out as shown below.
Ladies and Gentlemen, the data clearly show that even when eliminating the Mormon vote, Romney still trounced the other candidates in Nevada. Romney is electable among all three groups of conservatives: Family Conservatives, Economic Conservatives, and Defense Conservatives.
The graph from MSNBC Video is telling:
28% Protestant, 25% Mormon, 18% Catholic, 15% Other Christian
Nevada Caucus Numbers with 98% of precincts reporting:
| Romney | Paul | McCain | Huckabee | Thompson | Giuliani | Hunter | Tancredo | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Votes | 22313 | 5742 | 5558 | 3500 | 3475 | 1884 | 879 | 0 |
| Percent | 51% | 13% | 13% | 8% | 8% | 4% | 2% | 0% |
We take the 22313 and divide by 2 in order to derive 50%. This is 22313/2 = 11156.5
Because we cannot have a half person, we will lower the number to 11156. The new numbers and percentages come out as shown below.
| Romney | Paul | McCain | Huckabee | Thompson | Giuliani | Hunter | Tancredo | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Votes | 11156 | 5742 | 5558 | 3500 | 3475 | 1884 | 879 | 0 |
| Percent | 35% | 18% | 17% | 11% | 11% | 6% | 3% | 0% |
The graph from MSNBC Video is telling:
28% Protestant, 25% Mormon, 18% Catholic, 15% Other Christian
Friday Night before South Carolina Primary and Nevada Caucus
Well, it's already late but I've been watching the news. Most stations seem to be carrying the Nevada Democratic race. South Carolina looks like a good contest between McCain and Huckabee. Now is the time to place your guesses, recognizing, of course, that I can just edit this post should I prove to be incorrect. Notwithstanding, here are my guesses.
McCain wins South Carolina, Clinton wins Nevada.
This is a funny video about Obama's wife mispronouncing Nevada. She went a little overboard after she realized her mistake. Let's count them up, Nevahda, and then 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1. Wow 10 more times; I think she gets it now. Watch the video by clicking here.
This video talks about the correct pronunciation of Nevada, can you believe there are even blogs tracking those mispronouncing Nevada? Looks like Mrs. Obama made the list.
McCain wins South Carolina, Clinton wins Nevada.
This is a funny video about Obama's wife mispronouncing Nevada. She went a little overboard after she realized her mistake. Let's count them up, Nevahda, and then 1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1. Wow 10 more times; I think she gets it now. Watch the video by clicking here.
This video talks about the correct pronunciation of Nevada, can you believe there are even blogs tracking those mispronouncing Nevada? Looks like Mrs. Obama made the list.
Mitt Romney Michigan Victory Speech
This is one of the most impressive victory speeches so far. Kind of inspiring what Mitt Romney says about the American People. His interaction with the crowd is thrilling.
The American People want someone who is optimistic about our future - only Mitt Romney has the experience to lead a team of Democrats and Republicans, liberals and conservatives to make policy changes that will improve America. I feel amazed that we live in such a wonderful country where after all the politics, we still work together to muddle things forward.
The American People want someone who is optimistic about our future - only Mitt Romney has the experience to lead a team of Democrats and Republicans, liberals and conservatives to make policy changes that will improve America. I feel amazed that we live in such a wonderful country where after all the politics, we still work together to muddle things forward.
Huckabee and Trouble with his web site
I was browsing Mike Huckabee's presidential website. And lo and behold down on the right side is a Mormon blog supporting Mike Huckabee. Wow, even after Huckabee disses the Mormons someone is still supporting him? Latter-Day Saints for Huckabee it says. I click on the link and get the following:
Blogger: 404 Error Page - Page Not Found
Is Mike Huckabee making up support blogs? It appears he has some troubles with fibbing? Go check it out yourself by clicking here.
Evangelicals for Huckabee
I have read many comments online referring to people voting for Huckabee "because my pastor told me so". I really didn't believe people would do such a thing. But to my disbelief Mr. John Sansoterra, a small business owner and a member of a the First Baptist Church in sterling heights is doing just that. In his interview he said, "Granted the temptation is there on what could help me economically what could maybe better, but for us the social comes first."
Sansoterra likes Romney's plan to help the auto industry and he also likes Giuliani's plan to lower corporate taxes. Yet these two plans that would help him better support his family, his church, and his community are framed by Huckabee and his pastor as "temptations". And are therefore votes that will be deemed as "sin" if cast. I guess there is a reason why the Christian Science Monitor calls Mike Huckabee "a conservative with a social gospel".
What does Sansoterra mean by "us"? Instead of voting for his family's future, Sansoterra joins the "us". The announcer mentioned he is voting for a true social conservative. Huckabee isn't really a true social conservative - isn't that Fred Thompson? I think what they meant to say is that he is voting for a true evangelical because his pastor told him so. And evangelicals stick together, even when their candidate has a liberal tax history and raised taxes in his state.
It's a good thing voting is done in the confidential voting booth, where a vote for one's family and future can trump the suggestions of the "us".
Sansoterra likes Romney's plan to help the auto industry and he also likes Giuliani's plan to lower corporate taxes. Yet these two plans that would help him better support his family, his church, and his community are framed by Huckabee and his pastor as "temptations". And are therefore votes that will be deemed as "sin" if cast. I guess there is a reason why the Christian Science Monitor calls Mike Huckabee "a conservative with a social gospel".
What does Sansoterra mean by "us"? Instead of voting for his family's future, Sansoterra joins the "us". The announcer mentioned he is voting for a true social conservative. Huckabee isn't really a true social conservative - isn't that Fred Thompson? I think what they meant to say is that he is voting for a true evangelical because his pastor told him so. And evangelicals stick together, even when their candidate has a liberal tax history and raised taxes in his state.
It's a good thing voting is done in the confidential voting booth, where a vote for one's family and future can trump the suggestions of the "us".
John McCain Debatable Straight Talk Express - A Huckabee?
In reference to the new mailer sent out by John McCain the article states:
Doesn't anyone else see that John McCain and Huckabee are both doing the same thing? They are worse than Romney in my opinion, Romney never said he wouldn't compare his record with theirs. But both McCain and Huckabee have said they will not get involved in "negative" campaigning.
Looks like McCain just pulled "a Huckabee"!
A Huckabee definition - Saying you won't do something, then doing it anyway.
syn. political speak, been in politics too long, flip flopper
But the mailer goes on to draw a picture of Romney's record as governor of Massachusetts that is so distorted as to discredit McCain's claim to be the candidate of "straight talk."
Doesn't anyone else see that John McCain and Huckabee are both doing the same thing? They are worse than Romney in my opinion, Romney never said he wouldn't compare his record with theirs. But both McCain and Huckabee have said they will not get involved in "negative" campaigning.
Looks like McCain just pulled "a Huckabee"!
A Huckabee definition - Saying you won't do something, then doing it anyway.
syn. political speak, been in politics too long, flip flopper
What is A Huckabee?
The definition of "A Huckabee" is saying you won't do something, then doing it anyway.
synonyms include: Political Speak, Been in Politics Too Long, and Do What I Think Not What I Say
As in: I will not show this attack ad, but here it is anyway.
synonyms include: Political Speak, Been in Politics Too Long, and Do What I Think Not What I Say
As in: I will not show this attack ad, but here it is anyway.
Mitt Romney and Mrs. Blazo his teacher in 1953-1954
Mitt Romney is endorsed in Michigan by his teacher Mrs. Blazo. He was one you never had to "reprimand". Watch the video here.
Mitt Romney on Revitalizing Michigan Auto Industry
See Mitt Romney talk about a contrast between himself and McCain. This is a great presentation. Watch it here.
Mitt Romney Gets Standing Ovation From Detroit Economic Club
This was an excellent show for Mitt Romney in Michigan. You can watch it here. The Detroit Economic Club gave Mitt Romney a standing ovation for his remarks.
On a contrasting note, John McCain gave a speech about cutting the earmarks out of Washington and sending the money to where it will do some good. On the surface the idea sounds fine, but what McCain is really saying is he would redirect those earmarks to Michigan. What a politician, he can only speak in earmarks.
This is in stark contrast to Romney's plan which would get together a strong team to figure out the future direction of the car companies. Be sure to watch the C-Span coverage above.
On a contrasting note, John McCain gave a speech about cutting the earmarks out of Washington and sending the money to where it will do some good. On the surface the idea sounds fine, but what McCain is really saying is he would redirect those earmarks to Michigan. What a politician, he can only speak in earmarks.
This is in stark contrast to Romney's plan which would get together a strong team to figure out the future direction of the car companies. Be sure to watch the C-Span coverage above.
Enthusiastic Support for Mitt Romney at Prosperity Summit in Livonia
Both Romney and McCain spoke at the Americans for Prosperity summit in Livonia Saturday afternoon. While McCain got angry cat calls from the audience due to his poor understanding of economics and his immigration policy.
Romney gained an easy voter, his first grade teacher at Vaughn Elementary in Bloomfield Hills. Gloria Blazo attended the AFP event and showed Romney the class notes she had taken in 1953 when Romney was one of her students. “He was one person you never had to reprimand,” she said. School teachers for Romney!
The Americans for Prosperity summit, advocates for limited government, less regulation and fewer taxes. They gave an enthusiastic response to Romney who said,“Anyone earning $200,000 or less would have a new tax rate on their savings,” he said. “And that tax rate is zero.”
Read more here.
Romney gained an easy voter, his first grade teacher at Vaughn Elementary in Bloomfield Hills. Gloria Blazo attended the AFP event and showed Romney the class notes she had taken in 1953 when Romney was one of her students. “He was one person you never had to reprimand,” she said. School teachers for Romney!
The Americans for Prosperity summit, advocates for limited government, less regulation and fewer taxes. They gave an enthusiastic response to Romney who said,“Anyone earning $200,000 or less would have a new tax rate on their savings,” he said. “And that tax rate is zero.”
Read more here.
Huckabee Scares a lot of Conservatives
While Mormons don't allow their church directories to be used for political purposes, nor their buildings; Mike Huckabee has a strong advantage by using evangelical church rosters.
Mr. Glenn lined up 50 local pastors to attend a closed-door breakfast with Mr. Huckabee in Grand Rapids. And he has compiled an e-mail list of more than 600 volunteers — many in Internet groups that Huck’s Army is connecting — who have been using church directories to make phone calls, courting local pastors and leafleting church parking lots . source
“Recruit volunteers to stand this Sunday on public sidewalks across the street from the parking lots of the biggest evangelical churches you can find,” Mr. Glenn urged in a recent e-mail message.
Richard Land, the top public policy official of the Southern Baptist Convention, argued that just as small-government and foreign-policy conservatives could not win a primary without evangelicals, “I don’t think evangelicals can win without most of the rest of those coalitions".
I am a bit surprised by Huckabee's use of religious groups. It would be interesting to hear what happens behind those closed door meetings.
Mr. Glenn lined up 50 local pastors to attend a closed-door breakfast with Mr. Huckabee in Grand Rapids. And he has compiled an e-mail list of more than 600 volunteers — many in Internet groups that Huck’s Army is connecting — who have been using church directories to make phone calls, courting local pastors and leafleting church parking lots . source
“Recruit volunteers to stand this Sunday on public sidewalks across the street from the parking lots of the biggest evangelical churches you can find,” Mr. Glenn urged in a recent e-mail message.
Richard Land, the top public policy official of the Southern Baptist Convention, argued that just as small-government and foreign-policy conservatives could not win a primary without evangelicals, “I don’t think evangelicals can win without most of the rest of those coalitions".
I am a bit surprised by Huckabee's use of religious groups. It would be interesting to hear what happens behind those closed door meetings.
John McCain vs. Mitt Romney vs. Huckabee
Michigan is now in the spotlight. The latest polls show McCain at 29%, Romney at 27% and Huckabee at 19%.
I think Mitt Romney would make an excellent President for the following reasons:
I think Mitt Romney would make an excellent President for the following reasons:
- As a Washington outsider, Romney does not owe anybody in Congress favors. McCain does owe political favors to Kennedy and others.
- Unlike Huckabee that relies on his poorness for votes and his supporters for non financial gifts, Mitt Romney cannot be bought like Huckabee (read about it here).
- While Mitt Romney doesn't have the most foreign experience like McCain, the world more and more uses economics for negotiations, sanctions, and cooperation. Mitt Romney is the only candidate that understands business and economics in a way that he can wisely use America's economic resources to aid our friends and hinder our enemies.
- A vote for Mitt Romney is a vote for a lower national debt, the optimization and streamlining of Washington, and a man that beyond war can use economic sanctions with nation motivating effect.
The polls are close, but think about this, economists estimated 80% of jobs in twenty years haven't even been thought of yet. Only Mitt Romney has the experience and knowledge to uniquely position America to take advantage of those jobs. Support Mitt Romney to lead America forward with respect to the economy.
John McCain is too old: that doesn't mean he's stupid
I talked with a woman from New Hampshire on Monday Janauary 7th, the day before the election. She said, "I am 85 years old and I won't vote for John McCain. When you get old, it's not the mind that goes, it's the energy level. I think it takes a lot of energy to be a President and I don't think McCain has it. At McCain's age the energy level drops although the mind is still strong. It's just what happens when you get old."
Want a job? Give a gift to Mike Huckabee
Ladies and Gentlemen for the following paltry sums you can get the following jobs:
$ Amount = Your new Job; he did it and so can you
$60,000 = University of Arkansas Stadium Commission Seat; Jennings Osborn
$44,600 = Game and Fish Commission Seat; Ronald Pierce
$20,000* = Head of the Arkansas State Police; Tom Mars
$500** = State Parks, Recreation and Travel Commission; Name withheld
$80*** = Arkansas State Board of Optometry; Name withheld
Do you really want to vote for the ethically challenged Mike Huckabee?
The guy has real ethics violations! His salary as Governor of Arkansas was $67,000. Astonishingly, Mike Huckabee accepted $121,000 in gifts in one year - almost double his salary. Mike Huckabee also received 91 gifts from 21 people. Mike Huckabee later appointed those people to important chairs and commissions. Mike Huckabee is one Presidential candidate that can be bought. A vote for Mike is a vote for more corruption in Washington.
*Estimated services based on free lawyer services provided by Tom Mars when Huckabee filed a lawsuit against the Arkansas Ethics Committee.
**Estimated service barbecue grill
***Estimated cost of eye care services
$ Amount = Your new Job; he did it and so can you
$60,000 = University of Arkansas Stadium Commission Seat; Jennings Osborn
$44,600 = Game and Fish Commission Seat; Ronald Pierce
$20,000* = Head of the Arkansas State Police; Tom Mars
$500** = State Parks, Recreation and Travel Commission; Name withheld
$80*** = Arkansas State Board of Optometry; Name withheld
Do you really want to vote for the ethically challenged Mike Huckabee?
The guy has real ethics violations! His salary as Governor of Arkansas was $67,000. Astonishingly, Mike Huckabee accepted $121,000 in gifts in one year - almost double his salary. Mike Huckabee also received 91 gifts from 21 people. Mike Huckabee later appointed those people to important chairs and commissions. Mike Huckabee is one Presidential candidate that can be bought. A vote for Mike is a vote for more corruption in Washington.
*Estimated services based on free lawyer services provided by Tom Mars when Huckabee filed a lawsuit against the Arkansas Ethics Committee.
**Estimated service barbecue grill
***Estimated cost of eye care services
New Hampshire Fox Debate 1/6/2008
These are my notes from the debate, the times may be off, but if you watch the entire thing, this is what I noted:
12:00 Huckabee uses "Political Speak" to avoid saying he raised taxes. He totally avoided the question and Romney asked him straight up FOUR TIMES. Definition of Political Speak.
20:45 Huckabee claims his comment "the CEO who laid you off" is NOT directed at Romney. Ask any of his supporters and they say it does refer to Romney. Huckabee's double talk is revealed, besides Huckabee is talking about firing 115,000 employees right off the bat. For comparision the U.S. only brought in 43,000 jobs in November 2007.
23:46 Huckabee misspeaks and says he will "get rid of death" (he meant to say death tax), to which Thompson pipes in and says that is something they can both agree on. Funny exchange.
(Note: Throughout Huckabee continually interrupts moderator. The moderator tells him to be stop talking until he can finish his question.) Huckabee continues about taxes and reveals his link to special interest groups concerned with firing 115,000 federal employees and giving a tax increase to middle class Americans, for me it amounts to 16%. The New York Times says.
29:00 McCain says, "I am an agent of change..." Hilarious, since just last night McCain was railing on Romney for being the agent of change.
31:10 Romney says Washington insiders will not get things done, if people keep sending the same people back to Washington in "different chairs."
46:05 Interesting Romney comments on qualities required to be President.
47:20 Huckabee marvels that his Democratic state kept "electing him" back into office. It's no wonder though; the guy is practically a Dem with his class warfare statements.
50:07 McCain does a hilarious funny face at Giuliani, not sure where that came from. He did it yesterday as well.
53:00 Thompson speaks about whether it is better to elect Executive or a Senator... took to long to get to the point
My DVD recorder stops suddenly, I put in new disk and restart count (hey, DVD-Rs are like politicians, they must be changed regularly):
2:00 Huckabee on immigration. Huckabee supports letting illegals go to school, and is slammed on his "don't punish the children" statement because his new immigration policy sends everybody home within 120 days. Romney chimes in and asks doesn't sending the children home punish the parents? Huckabee says he is not talking to Romney, but that he is talking to the moderator. The moderator says, "I was just about to ask the same question." And does so, "Doesn't sending the children home punish the parents?" Funny moment, Huckabee looked like a cornered politician on that one.
4:35 Amnesty vs. non-Amnesty is all nonsense says McCain. Huckabee mimics McCain's position.
5:55 Thompson says, everyone sitting as this table "including Ronald Reagan". Opps, that's not Ronald Reagan, it's John McCain dude.
15:00 Huckabee on negative ads. Moderator says, Huckabee you have said, Romney is running a "desperate and dishonest campaign", he is sitting right next to you, what do you say? He then says people can distort anything, but he doesn't call Romney dishonest to his face. McCain then talks about the negative ads he has received. Romney comes back by saying he compared their records with his to emphasis differences in their positions. He says McCain's ad was tough (and I agree, it was a personal attack by the Concord Monitor and had nothing to do with the campaign, unless the word "phony" was used on all candidates). Romney then points out Huckabee's campaign has been using personal attacks. For instance, Huckabee's campaign manager Mr. Rollins said he wanted to "kick Mitt's teeth out". Huckabee jokes that Chuck Norris is waiting outside and Thompson chimes in saying if John Wayne were here he would kick Chuck's butt.
20:00 Romney explains that he has only changed his position to pro-life. But that the media and his competitors have tried to mislabel him as if he had changed all of his positions. He says, I would rather change my position to the right, than stubbornly remain in the wrong.
27:13 Thompson says he should be President because "I've never lost an election, although I haven't been in very many."
28:25 Huckabee uses a quote by Abraham Lincoln that he used a couple hours earlier with the same moderator.
30:00 Mitt Romney's closing arguments were to the point, talked about his concern for his children and his grandchildren, he says he knows how to make America a better place for future generations
34:00 McCain's closing arguments - the guy just looks tired.
Hats off to Fox News for a debate that actually allowed the candidates to go beyond just little sound bites in other debates. I was surprised Ron Paul wasn't there, but the table did look crowded. Seriously, Rudy Giuliani looked like he was about to fall off the table. I enjoyed the debate and saw a side of the candidates I had not seen before.
I declare Mitt Romney the winner as he was the most coherent about his positions and what he would do as a President of the American people. Although Thompson didn't say a lot, I thought he actually did pretty well in this debate. McCain seemed out of touch, Huckabee was exposed as a slick talking politician. Giuliani can't move past 9/11. A vote for Mitt Romney is a vote for a leader with a proven track record and the abilities to make a better tomorrow for our children (at least after this debate).
12:00 Huckabee uses "Political Speak" to avoid saying he raised taxes. He totally avoided the question and Romney asked him straight up FOUR TIMES. Definition of Political Speak.
20:45 Huckabee claims his comment "the CEO who laid you off" is NOT directed at Romney. Ask any of his supporters and they say it does refer to Romney. Huckabee's double talk is revealed, besides Huckabee is talking about firing 115,000 employees right off the bat. For comparision the U.S. only brought in 43,000 jobs in November 2007.
23:46 Huckabee misspeaks and says he will "get rid of death" (he meant to say death tax), to which Thompson pipes in and says that is something they can both agree on. Funny exchange.
(Note: Throughout Huckabee continually interrupts moderator. The moderator tells him to be stop talking until he can finish his question.) Huckabee continues about taxes and reveals his link to special interest groups concerned with firing 115,000 federal employees and giving a tax increase to middle class Americans, for me it amounts to 16%. The New York Times says.
29:00 McCain says, "I am an agent of change..." Hilarious, since just last night McCain was railing on Romney for being the agent of change.
31:10 Romney says Washington insiders will not get things done, if people keep sending the same people back to Washington in "different chairs."
46:05 Interesting Romney comments on qualities required to be President.
47:20 Huckabee marvels that his Democratic state kept "electing him" back into office. It's no wonder though; the guy is practically a Dem with his class warfare statements.
50:07 McCain does a hilarious funny face at Giuliani, not sure where that came from. He did it yesterday as well.
53:00 Thompson speaks about whether it is better to elect Executive or a Senator... took to long to get to the point
My DVD recorder stops suddenly, I put in new disk and restart count (hey, DVD-Rs are like politicians, they must be changed regularly):
2:00 Huckabee on immigration. Huckabee supports letting illegals go to school, and is slammed on his "don't punish the children" statement because his new immigration policy sends everybody home within 120 days. Romney chimes in and asks doesn't sending the children home punish the parents? Huckabee says he is not talking to Romney, but that he is talking to the moderator. The moderator says, "I was just about to ask the same question." And does so, "Doesn't sending the children home punish the parents?" Funny moment, Huckabee looked like a cornered politician on that one.
4:35 Amnesty vs. non-Amnesty is all nonsense says McCain. Huckabee mimics McCain's position.
5:55 Thompson says, everyone sitting as this table "including Ronald Reagan". Opps, that's not Ronald Reagan, it's John McCain dude.
15:00 Huckabee on negative ads. Moderator says, Huckabee you have said, Romney is running a "desperate and dishonest campaign", he is sitting right next to you, what do you say? He then says people can distort anything, but he doesn't call Romney dishonest to his face. McCain then talks about the negative ads he has received. Romney comes back by saying he compared their records with his to emphasis differences in their positions. He says McCain's ad was tough (and I agree, it was a personal attack by the Concord Monitor and had nothing to do with the campaign, unless the word "phony" was used on all candidates). Romney then points out Huckabee's campaign has been using personal attacks. For instance, Huckabee's campaign manager Mr. Rollins said he wanted to "kick Mitt's teeth out". Huckabee jokes that Chuck Norris is waiting outside and Thompson chimes in saying if John Wayne were here he would kick Chuck's butt.
20:00 Romney explains that he has only changed his position to pro-life. But that the media and his competitors have tried to mislabel him as if he had changed all of his positions. He says, I would rather change my position to the right, than stubbornly remain in the wrong.
27:13 Thompson says he should be President because "I've never lost an election, although I haven't been in very many."
28:25 Huckabee uses a quote by Abraham Lincoln that he used a couple hours earlier with the same moderator.
30:00 Mitt Romney's closing arguments were to the point, talked about his concern for his children and his grandchildren, he says he knows how to make America a better place for future generations
34:00 McCain's closing arguments - the guy just looks tired.
Hats off to Fox News for a debate that actually allowed the candidates to go beyond just little sound bites in other debates. I was surprised Ron Paul wasn't there, but the table did look crowded. Seriously, Rudy Giuliani looked like he was about to fall off the table. I enjoyed the debate and saw a side of the candidates I had not seen before.
I declare Mitt Romney the winner as he was the most coherent about his positions and what he would do as a President of the American people. Although Thompson didn't say a lot, I thought he actually did pretty well in this debate. McCain seemed out of touch, Huckabee was exposed as a slick talking politician. Giuliani can't move past 9/11. A vote for Mitt Romney is a vote for a leader with a proven track record and the abilities to make a better tomorrow for our children (at least after this debate).
New Hampshire Republican Debate 1/5/2008
What is up with the Republican Presidential candidates? McCain endorses Huckabee for Iowa. Huckabee endorses McCain for New Hampshire. And Giuliani endorses both Huckabee and McCain for both Iowa and New Hampshire. I personally am astonished at the pathetic display of wolf pack tactics used by the Republican Candidates against one of their own! My respect for McCain, Huckabee, Giuliani, and Thompson has dropped. They acted like jackals. Only their prey got away. Romney emerged stronger.
The bottom line is they are all afraid of Mitt Romney. He is a true leader, his family is good, he has proven experience and demonstrated results, time and time again.
Just like the water buffalo in this video, Romney kept his poise, and showed an indominable spirit. (The action starts at minute 2:00. First the lions attack, then the crocodile, and finally those truly opposed to personal attacks arrive - the New Hampshire voters!)
Reasons Romney won the debate:
The bottom line is they are all afraid of Mitt Romney. He is a true leader, his family is good, he has proven experience and demonstrated results, time and time again.
Just like the water buffalo in this video, Romney kept his poise, and showed an indominable spirit. (The action starts at minute 2:00. First the lions attack, then the crocodile, and finally those truly opposed to personal attacks arrive - the New Hampshire voters!)
Reasons Romney won the debate:
- Romney got one third of the face time during the debate.
- He was able to explain why he was in the race: strengthen families, improve education, strengthen the economy, and build a strong military.
- The visible disdain by his fellow candidates was disgraceful CNN stated
- They blather and cry about comparision ads and then they wolf pack Romney at this debate
- CNN calls it "go after" - I call it "jackals attacking"
Disgusted with Huckabee - A DARK CAMPAIGN
The following comments come from one campaign's leaders. What a hypocrite Huckabee is!
I still find it interesting that Huckabee never has his family in the media. I didn't even know his family was in Iowa - wasn't one arrested recently? I also found it interested that when Huckabee gave his "I won Iowa speech", it wasn't his wife or his sons that stood behind him, it was CHUCK NORRIS and Chuck's wife! Whenever Chuck opened his mouth I had to turn down the color on my TV, that guy has teeth whiter than #FFFFFF in HTML!!!!!! It is nice to hear his family is second or third when it comes to supporters. Put on your sunglasses to watch this one.
Another thing that bugs me about Huckabee is as he said today, "If I come in fourth or fifth in New Hampshire I'll be just fine." Hello, Huckabee there are only four or five candidates in the race!
Romney is the better candidate.
- “We are going to see if we can’t take Romney out,” Mr. Rollins said.
- "Romney running 'dishonest' campaign." Huckabee said.
- I don't round house kick, I “just like to choke those guys out.” Norris said.
- “We’re going to see if we can’t take Romney out. We like John. Nobody likes Romney.”Mr. Rollins said.
I still find it interesting that Huckabee never has his family in the media. I didn't even know his family was in Iowa - wasn't one arrested recently? I also found it interested that when Huckabee gave his "I won Iowa speech", it wasn't his wife or his sons that stood behind him, it was CHUCK NORRIS and Chuck's wife! Whenever Chuck opened his mouth I had to turn down the color on my TV, that guy has teeth whiter than #FFFFFF in HTML!!!!!! It is nice to hear his family is second or third when it comes to supporters. Put on your sunglasses to watch this one.
Another thing that bugs me about Huckabee is as he said today, "If I come in fourth or fifth in New Hampshire I'll be just fine." Hello, Huckabee there are only four or five candidates in the race!
Romney is the better candidate.
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